can anyone give me a valid reason for it?
growing old is a drag.
the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..
WeatherLover,
Well said. Science has neither the skills nor the capabilities. But the Dynamic Duo and the Forces of Good do. As you wish shall be accomplished. And the really great thing is that everybody is included! Not one will be forgotten or left out.
We must of necessity experience the "sleep of death" on the way. But the inconvenience will be worth it.
my excuse is that i was born in the religion.
but if someone wasn’t, why would they become one?.
I became aware of the witnesses while in high school. One of my classmates was a witness and was a pretty cool guy; he had a worldly girlfriend (a classmate), he had a car, he seemed really knowledgeable about the Bible and he was popular. He seemed very much like all of my other classmates who were Christian except that he was much more familiar with the Bible.
I expressed an interest in the religion and he sorta took me under his wing and introduced me to his family, invited me to visit the Kingdom Hall and provided transportation since I had no car and lived in a rural area. I was very positively impressed by the people in the congregation, the heavy use of the Bible in all discussions, talks and studies and also was comfortable with the young people in the congregation many of whom were my age and there were some really attractive young ladies there too.
I was "love-bombed" and fell under their "spell." Their very cleverly executed program of deception created the impression in my mind that they were exceptional Christians who took the Bible seriously.
At the same time, once my family discovered that I had joined them, they began to "oppose" what I had done and at every opportunity tried valiantly to "wake me up" to the possibility that the witnesses were a cult and weren't what they seemed. The pastor at the church I had previously attended met with me on several occasions to try to warn me, several of my schoolteachers also spoke with me numerous times to try to warn me, but I guess everyone here knows how that goes... It just stiffened my resolve to stay with the witnesses. At least for that time being.
Then I gradually began to notice things and slowly got the feeling that "something" was just not right. I began to have doubts and after about a year and a half just dropped out. The congregation by that time was well aware of the "opposition" I was experiencing so apparently they decided to let me be. I wasn't taking any chances though so joined the Navy to get away for a time to clear my head and decide what to do next.
My first impressions were very strong and very positive which set the "hook." After several months of association and meetings I began to realize that I didn't go along with many of their teachings. I was already baptized and considered to be a "witness" even though at that time (1957-1958) baptisms were much different than now and it was spontaneous at the assembly: no "candidacy" and no waiting - instant baptism in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
My escape was much easier by several orders of magnitude that what most here have suffered. Even then, it took many years to unravel the level of indoctrination from my quite brief association. It was only after I retired from the Navy and associated with the witnesses once again to more thoroughly explore their teachings and procedures that I acquired an in depth comprehension of their fear based control tactics and finally saw what their game was.
Freedom is very, very nice. I have the utmost respect for all who've managed to escape from The Cult in far more difficult circumstances than my own very painless experience. Looking back, I am very grateful for all who "opposed" my joining the witnesses by taking the time to warn me and to plant those wonderful seeds of doubt while encouraging me to find out who they really are. It took many years but I never forgot their concerns.
can anyone give me a valid reason for it?
growing old is a drag.
the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..
The WTBorg Cult Inc. "Twisted Truth" version of the Good News is in reality the Doctrines of Men. It is pretty far removed from the Really Good News of The Word.
If God could save everyone - would He?
Once the Real Truth of the Word is understood all of the trauma inducing fear mind control dogma of the WTBorg Cult Inc. vanishes like a puff of smoke.
i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.
i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.
i could care less.
Quote from Coded Logic:
But my interest in these topics only exists as far as my JW ignorance. That is to say - how surprising it is how little I knew about a book I supposedly studied every single week.
And there you have the very core of the rotten apple. Amazing, isn't it?
The "secret" mission of the WTBorg Cult Inc.
thumbs-up gesture doesn’t covey much if we see only four fingers closed and thumb standing upward.
but if we look for the implied meaning, then it is a positive, informal signal indicating a job well done, and saying ‘keep it up.’.
similarly, biblical accounts don’t convey much if we see them as mere accounts.
Quote from Finkelstein:
Nonsensical statement, when Adam had Cain as a child he was already tossed out the Garden of Eden and became imperfect, therefore they were both imperfect.
It is presumed by many that both Adam and Eve were somehow "perfect" before their disobedience. That they then became "imperfect" as a consequence.
But, they hadn't yet eaten of the Tree of Life before their expulsion.
Before disobedience they obviously weren't immune to doubtful or sinful thoughts.
Perhaps, in the final analysis, they did just as they were expected to do. After all, Our Father couldn't have been surprised. He knows all things before they occur.
It is all an essential element of the Grand Plan. As is Satan and the disobedient Angels who followed him. As is our crazy World today before its conclusion.
Our lives may truly be just beginning. Death and Resurrection have a Grand Purpose.
this has always baffled me.
that is why was satan and his demons allowed to be in heaven for so long after they split from god?.
if we did that then we are out of the congregation, members are shunned and also kicked out of families homes.
Actually, the answer is in The Word.
Satan and his gang are a necessity in the Grand Plan.
We need Satan and his cohorts to help us learn the meaning of bad.
Satan only does what he is permitted to do for our benefit.
It will all be very clear when the time comes to have our eyes opened and our ears unstopped.
For Our Father and His Son all things are possible. Everything is under control.
We must experience this Earthly travail in order to choose.
In the end all will be made good.
There is much wisdom in the "meme."
Keywords: Peace and Conflict.
Just like in Poker, you gotta know when to "hold 'em" and when to "fold 'em."
Retreat is a valid military tactic which is too little utilized.
yes friends!.
after the program, i kept my "lapel badge" on.. so while filling up my car with fuel, the attendant asked me about it.
i was able to share some great points about the wonderful program my wife and i had just enjoyed in sydney all weekend!.
S-i-a-r-2,
The event must have been quite good! Impressive line-up on the page you referenced.
Hopefully you managed to get a word in about The Cult and the necessity to avoid it like the plague.
i have not been here in a while, just trying to move on with my life all the while dealing with a very pimi brainwashed wife.. so the other day she started saying that we will have to go our own ways when things get worse with this world.
she has said this before because she believes that the government will turn on religion and the great and powerful wizards (guardians of doctrine g.o.d.
) will call everyone and tell them where to go.. thank god, (no pun intended) i have been out of the loop for such a long time.
The prophecies regarding Babylon, Babylon the Great and The Mark of the Beast. Since the WTBorg Cult Inc. sells itself to the unwary by claiming to be The Chosen, in their eyes they will be directing traffic when things go critical at some point in the future. Needless to say, they'll be in for a very rude awakening when that time comes...
makes me crazy:.
there: go over there!.
their: they own it; belonging to etc.. for the love of pete - use them correctly!.
Or "loose" when "lose" is meant.
The American Embrace of Mediocrity (aka state sanctioned dumbing down of the population) has been a smashing success. The "language" is changing as all languages do in time. The uneducated are now a great majority.
